Why have Creators failed to act on TOS?

There is now total confusion in the fan content area because the Creators have failed to clarify the TOS with the exception of what information has been relayed indirectly to the discussions. This issue needs to be clarified quickly so that fans can get back to creating and submitting their own UGC (User Generated Content). Alternatives have been presented but at present we have little idea where the Creators stand on the issues.

TOS for UGC Discussion of terms of use for User Generated Content.

Lets get this settled and get back to the fun!
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Broken Kid said...
I don't know if "total confusion" is correct. Impulse had a specific question that I ran by Greg and got his clarification. I can do that for other questions too.

Yes, I absolutely agree that they need to amend/update/clarify the TOS, and the suggestions people have made are great. But if people are confused, I can try to help get answers. I don't see people asking a lot of specific questions there. The confusion I see is that the discussion moved on to something totally unrelated.
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Note: The implication in what BK says above implies that what he post in the discussion based on what the Creators tell him is a legal amendment of the TOS. I am not sure if this is the case but if so that should be clarified. We are not laywers here! HELP!

immo1 said...
The topic is called: "The TOS and other issues facing Fan Content Makers." Some of the other issues being discussed can't happen under the current TOS, so it's all related. Settling the TOS is the first task but the other issues need to be addressed as well. As far as specifics, I want to know what exactly is the plan? Why have a FanFic and LG15 Character Interaction section when no LG15 character ever posts in it? I'll be blunt-a year ago we were told we could make our own characters and stories. We did that, it's run it's course. If there is no next level or that next level is not very motivating then the TOS becomes irrelevant because the talent will leave. It's all related.
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Broken Kid said...
I'm sorry. I meant that the discussion of the Joneses and such was unrelated, for the most part.

I contacted Greg about this, and he said that he and Miles are going to work on revising the Terms of Use right away. Obviously, they're busy, but they're going to make this a top priority.

Certainly the clarification I posted from Greg isn't legally binding. It was an attempt to clarify the legalese, I guess. I'm sure some legalese will be needed (he is a lawyer, after all), but if they can make it clear to fans how it impacts them and the videos they upload, that would probably help a lot. As well as clearing up the inconsistencies in the document they have.
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-immo1 said...
I'm not sure how the Joneses is unrelated when it's the best example of what the TOS should look like since they use user generated content in the same way lg15 does? In addition, any futher interaction that would be similar to what takes place on the Joneses can't happen unless the TOS is squared away.

In the end, all that matters is that the issued is handled so I am glad to see that it it being addressed.
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Anonymous said...
The key is to also address any changes that contradict the earlier terms, where fan content makers were told they could make money off their videos (i.e. with Revver).

There needs to be an effective date stated when this was no longer allowed/encouraged.